The Crimson Disciples - Begining Anew

So, I figured I'd chronicle my forray into a new army...... again. I posted about it several months ago, but never got around to starting it, but the time has come!

The Crimson Disciples.
Chaos Space Marines (using Codex Blood Angels)

The first step in the creation of a new army (at least for me) is what type of army do I want to play?
The answer for this one is a Mech Heavy list that has a solid firebase and protects itself from the enemy onslaught.

So Part 1: The firebase.

Which starts with the troops.
I want to run an armor based list so a firebase+armor using the BA Codex = Razorbacks. 6 to be precise.
All loadout is the same Lascannon + Twin Linked Plasma Guns. (Big Surprise I know, but it's always been my favorite loadout since 2nd edition.)

Then, in true chaos fashion, each will have 5 guys inside.

Next up is HQ. since I'm spoofing both BA and the Word Bearers (the dark disciples) the HQ can be none other than Librarians (Sorcerers). and to both Protect The Army (Shield of Sanguinius) and scare the opponent (Fear the Darkness) they should be good to go!

Next up is the Support Fire. Heavy support will break from the normal BA Heavies in that there will be no Stormravens. just Vindicators with Siege Shields (3 to be precise). and the Fast Attack. So to continue with the Armor theme, Baal Predators (again 3) armed with utilitarian layouts: Assault Cannons with Heavy Bolter Sponsons.

Now to fill in some holes, Resiliency in the ranks, I'm adding 4 Sanguinary Priests. (2 squads of 2) with Infernus Pistols and Power Swords.

So, When I create a new army, I always plot out what the army lists will be all the way through.

So, Starting at 1500 and going all the way up to 2500 points, here they are:

Slot	Unit	Upgrades	Cost	Total Cost		Army Total
HQ	Librarian		100	115		1500
		Infernus Pistol	15
		Shield of Sanguinius	0
		Fear the Darkness	0
Elite	Sanguinary Priest x3		150	240
		Infernus Pistol x3	45
		Power Sword x3	45
Troop	Assault Squad x5		100	170
		Remove Jump Packs	0
		Melta Gun	10
		Razorback	20
		Las, TL Plasma	35
		Storm Bolter	5
Troop	Assault Squad x5		100	170
		Remove Jump Packs	0
		Melta Gun	10
		Razorback	20
		Las, TL Plasma	35
		Storm Bolter	5
Troop	Assault Squad x5		100	170
		Remove Jump Packs	0
		Melta Gun	10
		Razorback	20
		Las, TL Plasma	35
		Storm Bolter	5
Troop	Assault Squad x5		100	170
		Remove Jump Packs	0
		Melta Gun	10
		Razorback	20
		Las, TL Plasma	35
		Storm Bolter	5
Heavy	Vindicator		145	155
		Siege Shield	10
Heavy	Vindicator		145	155
		Siege Shield	10
Heavy	Vindicator		145	155
		Siege Shield	10

Slot	Unit	Upgrades	Cost	Total Cost		Army Total
HQ	Librarian		100	100		1750
		Shield of Sanguinius	0
		Fear the Darkness	0
Elite	Sanguinary Priest x3		150	240
		Infernus Pistol x3	45
		Power Sword x3	45
Troop	Assault Squad x5		100	170
		Remove Jump Packs	0
		Melta Gun	10
		Razorback	20
		Las, TL Plasma	35
		Storm Bolter	5
Troop	Assault Squad x5		100	170
		Remove Jump Packs	0
		Melta Gun	10
		Razorback	20
		Las, TL Plasma	35
		Storm Bolter	5
Troop	Assault Squad x5		100	170
		Remove Jump Packs	0
		Melta Gun	10
		Razorback	20
		Las, TL Plasma	35
		Storm Bolter	5
Troop	Assault Squad x5		100	170
		Remove Jump Packs	0
		Melta Gun	10
		Razorback	20
		Las, TL Plasma	35
		Storm Bolter	5
Fast	Baal Predator		115	150
		Heavy Bolter Sponsons	30
		Dozer Blade	5
Fast	Baal Predator		115	115
		Flamestorm Cannons	0
Heavy	Vindicator		145	155
		Siege Shield	10
Heavy	Vindicator		145	155
		Siege Shield	10
Heavy	Vindicator		145	155
		Siege Shield	10

Slot	Unit	Upgrades	Cost	Total Cost		Army Total
HQ	Librarian		100	115		1845
		Shield of Sanguinius	0
		Fear the Darkness	0
		Infernus Pistol	15
Elite	Sanguinary Priest x3		150	240
		Infernus Pistol x3	45
		Power Sword x3	45
Troop	Assault Squad x5		100	185
		Remove Jump Packs	0
		Melta Gun	10
		Infernus Pistol	15
		Razorback	20
		Las, TL Plasma	35
		Storm Bolter	5
Troop	Assault Squad x5		100	185
		Remove Jump Packs	0
		Melta Gun	10
		Infernus Pistol	15
		Razorback	20
		Las, TL Plasma	35
		Storm Bolter	5
Troop	Assault Squad x5		100	185
		Remove Jump Packs	0
		Melta Gun	10
		Infernus Pistol	15
		Razorback	20
		Las, TL Plasma	35
		Storm Bolter	5
Troop	Assault Squad x5		100	170
		Remove Jump Packs	0
		Melta Gun	10
		Razorback	20
		Las, TL Plasma	35
		Storm Bolter	5
Fast	Baal Predator		115	150
		Heavy Bolter Sponsons	30
		Dozer Blade	5
Fast	Baal Predator		115	150
		Heavy Bolter Sponsons	30
		Dozer Blade	5
Heavy	Vindicator		145	155
		Siege Shield	10
Heavy	Vindicator		145	155
		Siege Shield	10
Heavy	Vindicator		145	155
		Siege Shield	10

Slot	Unit	Upgrades	Cost	Total Cost		Army Total
HQ	Librarian		100	115		1995
		Shield of Sanguinius	0
		Fear the Darkness	0
		Infernus Pistol	15
Elite	Sanguinary Priest x3		150	240
		Infernus Pistol x3	45
		Power Sword x3	45
Troop	Assault Squad x5		100	185
		Remove Jump Packs	0
		Melta Gun	10
		Infernus Pistol	15
		Razorback	20
		Las, TL Plasma	35
		Storm Bolter	5
Troop	Assault Squad x5		100	185
		Remove Jump Packs	0
		Melta Gun	10
		Infernus Pistol	15
		Razorback	20
		Las, TL Plasma	35
		Storm Bolter	5
Troop	Assault Squad x5		100	185
		Remove Jump Packs	0
		Melta Gun	10
		Infernus Pistol	15
		Razorback	20
		Las, TL Plasma	35
		Storm Bolter	5
Troop	Assault Squad x5		100	170
		Remove Jump Packs	0
		Melta Gun	10
		Razorback	20
		Las, TL Plasma	35
		Storm Bolter	5
Fast	Baal Predator		115	150
		Heavy Bolter Sponsons	30
		Dozer Blade	5
Fast	Baal Predator		115	150
		Heavy Bolter Sponsons	30
		Dozer Blade	5
Fast	Baal Predator		115	150
		Heavy Bolter Sponsons	30
		Dozer Blade	5
Heavy	Vindicator		145	155
		Siege Shield	10
Heavy	Vindicator		145	155
		Siege Shield	10
Heavy	Vindicator		145	155
		Siege Shield	10

Slot	Unit	Upgrades	Cost	Total Cost		Army Total
HQ	Librarian		100	100		2500
		Shield of Sanguinius	0
		Fear the Darkness	0
HQ	Librarian		100	100
		Shield of Sanguinius	0
		Fear the Darkness	0
Elite	Sanguinary Priest x2		100	160
		Infernus Pistol x2	30
		Power Sword x2	30
Elite	Sanguinary Priest x2		100	160
		Infernus Pistol x2	30
		Power Sword x2	30
Troop	Assault Squad x5		100	185
		Remove Jump Packs	0
		Melta Gun	10
		Infernus Pistol	15
		Razorback	20
		Las, TL Plasma	35
		Storm Bolter	5
Troop	Assault Squad x5		100	185
		Remove Jump Packs	0
		Melta Gun	10
		Infernus Pistol	15
		Razorback	20
		Las, TL Plasma	35
		Storm Bolter	5
Troop	Assault Squad x5		100	185
		Remove Jump Packs	0
		Melta Gun	10
		Infernus Pistol	15
		Razorback	20
		Las, TL Plasma	35
		Storm Bolter	5
Troop	Assault Squad x5		100	170
		Remove Jump Packs	0
		Melta Gun	10
		Razorback	20
		Las, TL Plasma	35
		Storm Bolter	5
Troop	Assault Squad x5		100	170
		Remove Jump Packs	0
		Melta Gun	10
		Razorback	20
		Las, TL Plasma	35
		Storm Bolter	5
Troop	Assault Squad x5		100	170
		Remove Jump Packs	0
		Melta Gun	10
		Razorback	20
		Las, TL Plasma	35
		Storm Bolter	5
Fast	Baal Predator		115	150
		Heavy Bolter Sponsons	30
		Dozer Blade	5
Fast	Baal Predator		115	150
		Heavy Bolter Sponsons	30
		Dozer Blade	5
Fast	Baal Predator		115	150
		Heavy Bolter Sponsons	30
		Dozer Blade	5
Heavy	Vindicator		145	155
		Siege Shield	10
Heavy	Vindicator		145	155
		Siege Shield	10
Heavy	Vindicator		145	155
		Siege Shield	10

And the starting point of things I need to put together:

2 Chaos Sorcerers

1 Box of Possesed

3 Chaos Space Marine Boxes

6 Chaos Rhinos

6 Razorback Sprues

3 Baal Predators

3 Chaos Vindicators

3 Chaos Vehicle Upgrade Kits

The Possesed will be the Sanguinary Priests.
Thoughts on this anyone?

The Crimson Disciples - Chaos Space Marines (Blood Angels Codex)

So, with the League starting at the local Store, I will also be participating.

However Because of my experience, I am handicapping myself so that I don't have an unfair advantage.

So while everyone else starts at 250 points, I'm starting at 200 (well, a little less)

Here is the total army list that I will be fielding once everything is said and done:

HQ	Librarian		100	115	1750
		Blood Lance	0
		Fear the Darkness	0
		Infernus Pistol	15
Elite	Sanguinary Priests	3 Priests - Power Armor	150	150
Troop	Assault Squad	Remove Jump Packs	100	165
		Melta Gun	10
		Razorback	20
		Lascannon/TL Plasma	35
Troop	Assault Squad	Remove Jump Packs	100	165
		Melta Gun	10
		Razorback	20
		Lascannon/TL Plasma	35
Troop	Assault Squad	Remove Jump Packs	100	165
		Melta Gun	10
		Razorback	20
		Lascannon/TL Plasma	35
Troop	Assault Squad	Remove Jump Packs	100	165
		Melta Gun	10
		Razorback	20
		Lascannon/TL Plasma	35
Fast	Baal Predator		115	120
		Flamestorm	0
		Dozer Blad	5
Fast	Baal Predator		115	120
		Flamestorm	0
		Dozer Blad	5
Fast	Baal Predator		115	120
		Flamestorm	0
		Dozer Blad	5
Heavy	Vindicator		145	155
		Siege Shield	10
Heavy	Vindicator		145	155
		Siege Shield	10
Heavy	Vindicator		145	155
		Siege Shield	10

And to start off I will be fielding:

Troop	Assault Squad	Remove Jump Packs	100	165
		Melta Gun	10
		Razorback	20
		Lascannon/TL Plasma	35

This gives me a single squad and by month three I'll have two of those and the Librarian in the mix. fufilling the Minimum FOC to actually play.

Anyone have any thoughts?

40Kon - The Ringer Army

While In a perfect world I'd have a perfect number of players show up for a tournament, I'd never need a ringer.

Alas, we don't live in a perfect world. and nobody wants to pay for an event and sit out for 2 and a half hours.

So A ringer is always a necessity.

This is the ringer army for the montana 40kon.

SM Captain
-on Bike
-Power Weapon
-Hellfire Rounds
-Artificer Armor

SM Librarian
-on Bike
-Null Zone
-Smite

Command Squad
-on Bikes
-4 Plasma Guns
-2 Lightning Claws
-2 Thunder Hammers
-2 Storm Shields

Bike Squad (4 Bikes)
 -2 Meltas
-Power Fist
-Attack Bike w. Multi-Melta

Bike Squad (4 Bikes)
-2 Meltas
-Power Fist
-Attack Bike w. Multi-Melta

Bike Squad (4 Bikes)
-2 Meltas
-Power Fist
-Attack Bike w. Multi-Melta

Devistator Squad
-4 Missile Launchers
-Lascannon/TL Plasmagun Razorback

Devistator Squad
-4 Missile Launchers
-Lascannon/TL Plasmagun Razorback

Devistator Squad
-4 Missile Launchers
-Lascannon/TL Plasmagun Razorback
 2,000 Points

Now, a Ringer is not there to beat face. It's there to fill space.
I believe that if you play against a Ringer you get a win. Period.
That's just me.

I'll likely be playing the ringer, but not necessessarily.

If you play against the ringer you get 1 thing only automgically. A Win.
Since the 40kon Will be based on Both wins and points, this just does 1 thing. gets the first round's opponent into the upper bracket. They must earn their points. If I table the army I come up against, they have a large problem because they play with the big boys with very few points. If they beat the everliving crap out of me, well, they belong with the big boys anyhow.

Every other round of the event you always place the ringer against the Lowest player in the event. it's a non-issue.

Is it fair to everyone? not always. but life is not fair, we just deal with it as best we can.

Also, First round the Ringer plays a RANDOM player. so that random player could be the person I play most often, just as likely as it could be the person from Nova Scotia that I've never met before. There is never any malice in the Ringer's Opponent.

Ever.